The death of George Floyd has sparked many questions related to race relations, systemic racism, the use and abuse of force and power among the police force, faith and politics, partisanship, and many other questions. To help us think through these questions, I recently interviewed Justin Giboney from the AndCampaign in a live YouTube conversation, and this podcast is the audio version of that conversation.

Justin is a lawyer by trade and co-founder of the And Campaign, which helps Christians become less tribalistic and more Christian in their political affiliations. Preston and Justin talk about faith and politics, democratic candidates, and the pros and cons of political affiliation. Then, they launch into conversation about some blind spots that white evangelical Christians have about race relations and racism in the church today.