In this episode Jay and Isaac are interviewing Preston and discussing the various views on hell and Preston's personal journey from one particular view on hell to the uniquely different view he holds today.

For many people, the topic of hell poses one of the greatest challenges to embracing the idea that God is good and loving and just. We hope this conversation opens up the dialogue and helps to broaden your horizons as you think about the topic of hell.

Today Preston is in with John Mark Comer. He's a writer, speaker and a teacher. He's the pastor for teaching and vision at Bridgetown Church, right in the center of the city (by Powell's Books if you've ever been to Portland). They're talking about all kinds of topics but also his new book, God Has a Name.

Some other books by John Mark that Preston suggests you check out is Loveology, and Garden City.

Check out his website johnmarkcomer.com or Tweet at him @johnmarkcomer

Preston is in with Francis Chan talking about what's going on in his life and how he's been doing church. Francis has been creating a group of house churches that has been looking to do things differently. They're talking about the pros and cons of doing church this way and the pros and cons of how church is typically done in America today. 

We Got Some Changes! Preston is no longer bound to 15-minutes. So he's going for a half hour and he's talking about all kinds of stuff.

How can Christ be the substitute or sacrifice for our sins when he didn't take on the punishment of unbelievers? Shouldn't Jesus have spent an eternity in hell? Many people believe that a sin against an infinite God demands an infinite punishment but does the Bible seem to suggest this way of thinking?